JCN Interviews! Creator of SMBZ, Alvin-Earthworm

[docile_chinchou]

Original post by JCnobody on October 6, 2007 at 6:33 PM EST.

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Err... hello people of VGL.

Yeah... I know, interview rates has dropped. I'm slowing down a bit, but I'm still standing folks. Eh, to make up for my lack of progress, I'm holding a JCN Interviews: Special Event. Yes, I got something special for you guys. You might learn something from this interview so pay attention to Uncle JCN. Ahem...


Welcome to JCN's spin-off thread series.

JCN Interviews presents: An exclusive interview with Alvin-Earthworm. You heard correctly, the creator of Super Mario Bros. Z himself. I'm not gonna waste time with the intro. Let's get right to it...



Jah Jah!

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Our guest today:

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Interview:

- JCN: Hello, Alvin-Earthworm. Thanks alot for taking the time out of your schedule to do this interview. Much appreciated...

- Alvin: Let's get this over with. (lol, just kidding). You're welcome.

Q: So then, let's get to it... shall we? I've noticed an wide selection of flash cross-overs on the web. I'll admit that your flash is on another level when it comes to quality. Exactly how long have you been working with flash?

A: Since July 2005 if I remember correctly. I started off with the Random shorts series that is still posted in my DA gallery. I eventually grew tired of it after the seventh one and decided to give sprite animation a try.

Q: What originally gave you the concept to create a flash such as SMBZ?

A: I enjoyed watching other sprite animations on Newgrounds and really wanted to give it a try. I ws inspired to make SMBZ after watching other similar Mario/DBZ crossovers. Most of them were pretty lame so I tried my hand at making a better one.

Q: Approximately how long would you say it took you to complete the first episode of SMBZ?

A: Around 2 weeks roughly. But my motivation was a lot stronger back then compared to how it is now.

Q: Between the first episode and the second, which would you say was "easier" to create?

A: The second one despite the fact it had more action in it. I had more experience in working with flash by that point.

Q: What made you decide to base this flash series in the Mario universe rather than the Sonic universe?

A: Mainly because I'm a bigger Mario fan compared to Sonic.

Q: Would you say that the characters relate to DBZ in more ways than one? For instance: Mario as Goku or Sonic as Trunks?

A: Their roles in the story are similar to the original DBZ characters, but I'm focusing more on keeping them to their proper personalities.

Q: It seems that the SMBZ plot centers around the chaos emeralds which I assume are the dragonballs of DBZ. Will the Master Emerald influence the plot somehow?

A: It will, but I'll be keeping tight lipped about that so I don't spoil anything.

Q: Mecha Sonic's aptitude in killing shows us how ruthless and bloodthirsty he truly is. What made you decide to choose him to be the main antagonist of SMBZ?

A: There are multiple reasons behind the choice. First off I always prefered him over Metal Sonic since he looks physically stronger. Secondly, the sprites of him were better and more diverse than the ones of Metal Sonic and third, I also aquired some custom sprites that will do very nicely for his super form.

Q: Bowser also makes his presence known in earlier episodes of Super Mario Bros. Z. What role would you say he plays in SMBZ?

A: His role in episode 2 was based on when Mecha Frieza returned to earth and then was defeated by Trunks. Obviously I changed the plot so Sonic's capsule destroyed his metal form so that Mario could win. His role in future episodes won't be based on any other DBZ villains.

Q: In the second episode, we can cleary see that Sonic somehow knows who Mario is which is unexpected considering the fact that they live in separate dimensions. Care to explain?

A: Originally it was a plot that I scrapped when I started episode 3. But I've since come up with an explanation which will be revealed in episode 8.

Q: This question has been asked several times before, but no absolute answer has shown itself. It has been said in episode 3 that Mecha Sonic went on a killing spree, murdering Sonic's friends soon after Eggman's ship crashed into Mobius. People are wondering if there are any other survivors beside Sonic and Shadow?

A: Nope, Everyone but Sonic and Shadow were killed by Mecha Sonic.

Q: Aside from SMBZ, your also known for a few other flash animations and collaborations. One collab in particular was called, "Beat up Sandbag" led by Qc Storm. What are your after thoughts about this collab?

A: Not much. It was a nice diversion at the time but nothing too memorable.

Q: Concerning Spiderman vs Venom, how far are in development for this new flash animation project?

A: I've heard Trixiaoyu has nearly finished his part but I haven't done much of my part yet. No time or motivation.

Q: Can you tell us a bit about Spiderman vs Venom?

A: Originally it was going to be a solo project by myself that I was going to work on to commemorate the release of Spiderman 3, but I later found out that Trixiaoyu was also working on one. I didn't want to make one only to be accused of copying so I asked if he wanted to make it a collab.

Q: Returning to SMBZ, there will be a grand total of 45 episodes. 15 episodes in each of the 3 sagas. You've confirmed that a Smithy saga will take place right after the first saga. Have you thought about the 3rd saga at this point?

A: Yes I have, but I'm keeping tight lipped about it as well. At least until season 2 is in the works.

Q: Will the storyline of the Smithy saga be based on Mario and Sonic's adventures in the Mushroom Kingdom?

A: Well, the storyline in general will be completely original while keeping to the Mario/DBZ style, but the adventures will take place in locations in the mushroom kingdom as well as Smithy's dimension.

Q: There has also been confirmation of a movie that will serve as a interval between Mecha's saga and Smithy's saga. Chaos is supposedly the main antagonist of this movie. Will the events in this movie influence the Smithy saga somehow?

A: Not really, but the end of the first series will have an influence over the events of the first movie. There are other first series events that influence series 2 events, but I will keep those a secret.

Q: Does the scenario of the Chaos movie take place directly after the events of the Mecha saga?

A: A few months after the first series.

Q: A preview of episode 7 was recently released to the public. "Trapped within negative space" is shaping up to be quite an episode if I do say so myself. During the preview, we see that an enigmatic figure is assisting the truculent king with his affairs. Obviously Eggman, how did he managed to escape the ark and warp himself into another dimension?

A: Again, you'll find that out in a later episode.

Q: Another interesting twist is the secret these two possess. An android by the name of "Metal Mario" seems to be ready for combat. What made you decide to create a Mario android?

A: Mainly the fact it hasn't been done before (At least as far as I'm aware). I thought it would add twist to the story as well as a new foe for Mario to battle.

Q: May I believe that Metal Mario and Mecha Sonic are destined to do battle when the time arrives for such an occasion? Does this hold any truths to what your planning for Metal Mario?

A: Well, In truth Metal Mario has only been built for the sole purpose of killing Mario. Mecha Sonic has no interest in battling him since he has the biggest grudge against Sonic and Shadow. So while the scenario sounds cool, I don't think I'll be putting it into the series.

Q: What about Wario and Waluigi? Will they play a role in the episode to come?

A: They will serve as Comic relief for now until a later point in the series.

- JCN: Alright, these are a few questions asked by 5 of your fans. There are 5 in total... lol.

1) "What do you do for a living? What is your occuapation?"

A: I'd rather keep my personal life to myself.

2) "Could you tell us the experience of being complimented by many fans?"

A: It's pretty good to have your series recognised by so many, but I'll be honest, the non ending questions about when the next episode is finished does get a little tiresome.

3) "What's your secret to making your fight scenes so awesome?"

A: I watched other sprites animations and anime for inspiration.

4) "You are currently making alot of Youtube poops, how is that going?"

A: Quite slowly after the first few. I'm losing motivation for it just like SMBZ.

5) How frustrated do the fans make you sometimes, asking questions over and over?

A: I covered that in an earlier question.

Q: Your flash animation inspired a certain someone ( NessMasta ) to create his own flash called, "Nintegaball GT" or NBGT for short. His goal is to set a more realistic tone rather than your average Mario setting. The first episode was released sometime ago; what did you think of it?

A: It was pretty good, though I do admit that I'm a bit scepticle to him using the Dragonballs and making Mario talk freely rather than using gestures. But that's just my opinion. I prefer to keep them in character, I'm thinking that may be the secret to SMBZ's success.

Q: Is there any form of rivalry between you two at this point?

A: Not really. I'll think about that when his series starts getting more popular. No other Mario/DBZ series has managed to get the same recognition as SMBZ has so far.

Q: Is there anything you'd like to tell NessMasta? A word of advice perhaps?

A: I have given him quite a bit of help when I chatted with him on MSN. But other than that. No.

Q: Now, I know that where there's fame, there are people who would shun and/or antagonize you simply because they wish to. These tormentors are what I'd label as a "hater" for obvious reasons. I'm sure you had your share of hating from various people; is there anything you'd like to say to the "haters"?

A: I've already said what was needed to be said. From this point on, they aren't worth my time.

Q: Well, this interview is drawing to a close. Before I end it, tell us alittle about yourself ( how old you are, your favorite video game, etc. )

A: I'm 23. I'm strictly a Nintendo fan (Hate Xbox and Playstation). I've been playing video games since I was 10. My first video game was Super Mario Land on the Game Boy and I've been hooked on Mario games since.

Q: I believe we're just about done with this interview. Is there anything else you'd like to tell your fans?

A: Yeah, Please be patient. Good things come to those who wait.

- JCN: Thank you for giving "JCN Interviews" the oppurtunity to... well, interview you. Best of luck with your flash series. Perhaps we can do this again sometime in the near future.

- Alvin: Thank you. Hope you look forward to the rest of the series of SMBZ.

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I'd like to give a special thanks to TheScaryGuy, WildGamer, and Docile for the help. The procedure stands the same; if want an interview, just send me a PM or leave a post in the "JCN Interviews! Reference Corner" asking for one.

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[Roaring_Wind_Wolf]

That was an awewsome interview keep it up.

[Faltzer]

That was October 6, 2007 RWF... <.<

[Quiet Attrition]

old interview is old btw

[Eric B. (Shnoogums)]

But nonetheless, it was JCN's best one to date, if you ask me.

[JCnobody]

Hmm? I appreciate you bringing this interview over here, Docile, but you should've consulted me before... well, posting it.

old interview is old btw

Classic interview is classic, btw. :hah:

[docile_chinchou]

Hmm? I appreciate you bringing this interview over here, Docile, but you should've consulted me before... well, posting it.
It was one of the links in the old Ask a Question thread that people were supposed to consult before asking questions that have already been asked. It's not like I said I did it and not you. But I suppose, if I want to bring over anything else that you did, I'll consult you first.

[PKMN Trainer Red]

lol, JC's been planning on things for the new season. Top secret, yeah.....



Great interview, anywayz, even though I've read it before.

[Ken25]

That was a nice interview for Alvin-Earthworm. I wish I can chat with him again like last time.

[LuigiBoy1989]

That guy inspired me to do a flash myself. The minute I graduate from school, Ill make sure that I make a flash to show my thanks to him. :mellow:

[Eric B. (Shnoogums)]

lol necropost

[Faltzer]

Bumping this is pretty much OK, since it's sticked.

[Eric B. (Shnoogums)]

D'OH! >.< I forgot it was sticked. Nevermind then, carry on.

[matto insano]

done on my 19th birthday. word

[BombDiggety]

Yay.

[VermillionZero]

Hmm...A lot of my questions have been answered... I look forward to more episodes...

[Pizzaman]

One question: who is stronger between normal Mecha sonic and Metal Bowser?

[DancinKirby823]

One question: who is stronger between normal Mecha sonic and Metal Bowser?
uhhhm, idk. probably bowser if no chaos emeralds are used...... otherwise....

[Team Galactic Commander Mars]

ffffffffffffff fucking newfags

[Team Galactic Commander Mars]

ffffffffffffffff fucking jcn

[Quiet Attrition]

And to think I thought JCN was back. Fucking newbies

[Fried Cheese]

NOM newbs just started fapping to this
?

[Fried Cheese]

Also WTF? necropost much?

[Sevlen]

lol i love smbz!

[DancinKirby823]

NOM newbs just started fapping to this
?
actually no. I read this a while back, and after checking it out again, i figured i might as well answer Pizzaman's random question...

also, when does the newbie thing change to some other icon?

[0^2]

actually no. I read this a while back, and after checking it out again, i figured i might as well answer Pizzaman's random question...

also, when does the newbie thing change to some other icon?

I agree. Yoshi is the opposite of newbie, he is superior.

[Team Galactic Commander Mars]

lol i love smbz!

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Jeffhog]

We should close this thread...

[SSJ Zach]

this interview does answer a lot of my questions =D glad i don't have to ask them now lol

[Kitsune]

whoop-da-shoop!

[inveli]

ffffffffffffffff fucking jcn Lol You suck.

[Sevlen]

lol i think its fake...

[Link]

Gee, it sure is necroposting around here...

[Ikusa GT]

lol i think its fake...
It's a legitimate interview.

Gee, it sure is necroposting around here...

Necroposting rules do not come into play for stickied topics.

[Team Galactic Commander Mars]

why is this stickied

[Ikusa GT]

why is this stickied

Because it's an interview.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

Holy shit this is still here?

[Holy cow164]

Hey Every1! After the final battle, couldn't sonic and shadow bring 1-ups with them back to mobius?

[Vampire Zanji]

Hey Every1! After the final battle, couldn't sonic and shadow bring 1-ups with them back to mobius?


(I guess I'm not the only one who want to bring Sonic's friends back) Anyway, if Sonic and Shadow can enter Mario universe, then of course Sonic and Shadow can bring 1-ups.

[Bill407]

(I guess I'm not the only one who want to bring Sonic's friends back) Anyway, if Sonic and Shadow can enter Mario universe, then of course Sonic and Shadow can bring 1-ups.

It is possible

[Bird Pokémon Pidgeot]

But alvin won't do it, why?

1. He said he wanted them dead to simplify number of heroes
2. He's smart enough to avoid that

[Jensoman]

But alvin won't do it, why?

1. He said he wanted them dead to simplify number of heroes
2. He's smart enough to avoid that

There is a chance that Alvin will never show up on the internet again.

[Bird Pokémon Pidgeot]

He's still on the internet, he currently still keeps his DA up to date, kinda.

[Holy cow164]

I say hat they should collect 1-ups, go to sonic's world, revive his friends, get some more members to their team from mario's world, and kick tin can's ass!

[Vampire Zanji]

But alvin won't do it, why?

1. He said he wanted them dead to simplify number of heroes
2. He's smart enough to avoid that

WHAT! HE WANTED THEM DEAD? UNBELIEVABLE! Thank you Metlwing, this is the proof that I need. And besides, it's still possible. Don't you remember how Sonic and Shadow got into Mario world in the first place? With the power of...

Sonic and Shadow: CHAOS CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!! (Sonic and Shadow has teleported at Mobius with 5 1-ups.)
Shadow: Take this! (Shadow has threw 4 1-ups at Amy, Knuckles, Cream, and Cheese.)
Sonic: Here you go Tails. (Sonic has gave Tails a 1-up)
Tails: Thanks Sonic, but where did you get these from?
Sonic: From some friends...

Truly...Amazing!

[Holy cow164]

WHAT! HE WANTED THEM DEAD? UNBELIEVABLE! Thank you Metlwing, this is the proof that I need. And besides, it's still possible. Don't you remember how Sonic and Shadow got into Mario world in the first place? With the power of...

Sonic and Shadow: CHAOS CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!! (Sonic and Shadow has teleported at Mobius with 5 1-ups.)
Shadow: Take this! (Shadow has threw 4 1-ups at Amy, Knuckles, Cream, and Cheese.)
Sonic: Here you go Tails. (Sonic has gave Tails a 1-up)
Tails: Thanks Sonic, but where did you get these from?
Sonic: From some friends...

Truly...Amazing!

THANK YOU!

[Vampire Zanji]

THANK YOU!

No prob. If I didn't do it, WHO WILL?! (Sadly everybody else is brainwashed by Earthworm epic "I'm making excuses so I have more time to make esposide 8 a tragic saga." Hey, hypnosis is my department) Sorry about that, anyway, I'm a HUGE fan of Mario, Sonic, and DBZ series, so I know how to please the fans that what to hear the "What IF...." saga. Also, Shadow is my favorite so don't be afriad to ask any more SMBZ related question.


"This beatdown was sent by your friend Vampire Zanji"

[docile_chinchou]

Sonic and Shadow: CHAOS CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!! (Sonic and Shadow has teleported at Mobius with 5 1-ups.)
Shadow: Take this! (Shadow has threw 4 1-ups at Amy, Knuckles, Cream, and Cheese.)
Sonic: Here you go Tails. (Sonic has gave Tails a 1-up)
Tails: Thanks Sonic, but where did you get these from?
Sonic: From some friends...

I don't think 1-ups can revive a dead person.

It's like in Super Mario Bros., where 1-ups can only help you if you have more than zero lives.

[Bird Pokémon Pidgeot]

Wasn't it shown in a sonic game that chaos emeralds could actually revive the dead?

and in bowsers kingdom, Jeff and Hal used 1-ups to revive the dead princess peach, of course, bowser's kingdom is not SMBZ and Its not canon to the series.

[Holy cow164]

I don't think 1-ups can revive a dead person.

It's like in Super Mario Bros., where 1-ups can only help you if you have more than zero lives.

what about in episode 6, when mario died and was revived by luigi.

[Jensoman]

I think he got KO,but i am not sure.

[docile_chinchou]

what about in episode 6, when mario died and was revived by luigi.

I don't think he died. Just got really hurt. In fact, I think I remember Alvin saying Mario just got hurt there.

[Team Galactic Commander Mars]

Stop posting in this fucking thread

JCN was a BAD thing, thats why we try to forget him.

[Vampire Zanji]

I don't think 1-ups can revive a dead person.

It's like in Super Mario Bros., where 1-ups can only help you if you have more than zero lives.

What about "Mario and Luigi: SuperStar Saga?" When Mario or Luigi die, I always use a 1-up to revive the Super Mario Bros! Trust me, I know Mario a lot more than you think.

Keep on dreaming Holy cow164, my advice is the closest thing to true prefection on SMBZ.

[docile_chinchou]

What about "Mario and Luigi: SuperStar Saga?" When Mario or Luigi die, I always use a 1-up to revive the Super Mario Bros! Trust me, I know Mario a lot more than you think.

Are you sure they "die" and not "faint" or "become unconscious" or "lose energy and collapse"?

[Holy cow164]

Wasn't it shown in a sonic game that chaos emeralds could actually revive the dead?

and in bowsers kingdom, Jeff and Hal used 1-ups to revive the dead princess peach, of course, bowser's kingdom is not SMBZ and Its not canon to the series.

what about the Jeff and Hal scene in episode 7?

[Paper Luigi]

I don't think 1-ups can revive a dead person.

It's like in Super Mario Bros., where 1-ups can only help you if you have more than zero lives.

1-ups maybe can't revive died people, but Life Shrooms can.

[docile_chinchou]

1-ups maybe can't revive died people, but Life Shrooms can.

I'm not sure if they actually "die" in the first place, though. Or was there a case where a Life Shroom was actually used to revive someone that really was dead, like to advance to story?

[Dimentumn]

WHAT! HE WANTED THEM DEAD? UNBELIEVABLE! Thank you Metlwing, this is the proof that I need. And besides, it's still possible. Don't you remember how Sonic and Shadow got into Mario world in the first place? With the power of...

Sonic and Shadow: CHAOS CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!!! (Sonic and Shadow has teleported at Mobius with 5 1-ups.)
Shadow: Take this! (Shadow has threw 4 1-ups at Amy, Knuckles, Cream, and Cheese.)
Sonic: Here you go Tails. (Sonic has gave Tails a 1-up)
Tails: Thanks Sonic, but where did you get these from?
Sonic: From some friends...

Truly...Amazing!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Vampire Zanji]

(Sigh) What a pain. Let me put it this way. In "Mario and Luigi: SuperStar Saga", if a bad guy knock Mario's HP to zero, he's knock out. Just like when Metal Sonic defeated Tails, Tails was knocked out. If that doesn't work, then I go on. Since SMBZ is similar to Dragon Ball Z, I'll put it this way. Tails, Amy, Knuckles, and Cream and Cheese was "killed" by Metal Sonic, they didn't die naturally , they die because somebody hurt them, so a 1-up (or Life Shroom, it doesn't matter) can possibly revive Tails and company.

[docile_chinchou]

(Sigh) What a pain. Let me put it this way. In "Mario and Luigi: SuperStar Saga", if a bad guy knock Mario's HP to zero, he's knock out. Just like when Metal Sonic defeated Tails, Tails was knocked out. If that doesn't work, then I go on. Since SMBZ is similar to Dragon Ball Z, I'll put it this way. Tails, Amy, Knuckles, and Cream and Cheese was "killed" by Metal Sonic, they didn't die naturally , they die because somebody hurt them, so a 1-up (or Life Shroom, it doesn't matter) can possibly revive Tails and company.

Yes, if a bad guy knocked Mario's HP to zero, he's knocked out. But there is no HP system in SMBZ, and it was implied that Sonic's friends weren't just knocked out; they outright died. You seem to think that running out of HP and dying have to be the same, and I don't think that's the case here. Also, the concept of dying naturally or not isn't relevant in SMBZ, because there is no dragon with rules about being able to revive only those that were killed unnaturally.

In any case, they don't have to be revived with 1-ups or whatever. If Sonic 2006's story can be believed, the Chaos Emeralds can revive them. And there's also a possiblity that the Star Spirits can be involved in reviving them.

[Shellfish Pokémon Kabutops]

Keep on dreaming Holy cow164, my advice is the closest thing to true prefection on SMBZ.

I'd be careful with this kind of statement, it could cause all sorts of trouble. Just a friendly note.

Also I'd think Alvin's would be the closest, next being Docile Chinchou...

[Vampire Zanji]

Yes, if a bad guy knocked Mario's HP to zero, he's knocked out. But there is no HP system in SMBZ, and it was implied that Sonic's friends weren't just knocked out; they outright died. You seem to think that running out of HP and dying have to be the same, and I don't think that's the case here. Also, the concept of dying naturally or not isn't relevant in SMBZ, because there is no dragon with rules about being able to revive only those that were killed unnaturally.

In any case, they don't have to be revived with 1-ups or whatever. If Sonic 2006's story can be believed, the Chaos Emeralds can revive them. And there's also a possiblity that the Star Spirits can be involved in reviving them.

Okay then, I didn't want to do this but...I show you my trump card.

In epsiode 6, Sonic has transformed into Super Sonic with the power of a Starman? That can't be right...it's downright impossible. The only way that Sonic can transform into Super Sonic is with the power of the Chaos Emeralds. If Alvin Earthworm tires to make that true, then what stopping me from saying that 1-ups can revive Sonic's friends? Also, where does the Star Spirits came from anyway, I got their help once and it was pretty awesome, but again...? My point is if Sonic can transform into Super Sonic via Starman, then Sonic's friends can be revived via 1-ups, life shrooms, or Pick-me-ups...it doesn't matter. Besides, both Mario and Tails has been knocked out by a powerful enemy, so I'm just saying that Tails and friends can be revive...that is Sonic's main goal.

[Zombie Kaz]

Okay then, I didn't want to do this but...I show you my trump card.

In epsiode 6, Sonic has transformed into Super Sonic with the power of a Starman? That can't be right...it's downright impossible. The only way that Sonic can transform into Super Sonic is with the power of the Chaos Emeralds. If Alvin Earthworm tires to make that true, then what stopping me from saying that 1-ups can revive Sonic's friends? Also, where does the Star Spirits came from anyway, I got their help once and it was pretty awesome, but again...? My point is if Sonic can transform into Super Sonic via Starman, then Sonic's friends can be revived via 1-ups, life shrooms, or Pick-me-ups...it doesn't matter. Besides, both Mario and Tails has been knocked out by a powerful enemy, so I'm just saying that Tails and friends can be revive...that is Sonic's main goal.

The reason why Tails and the rest can't be revived is simple;
Pirncess Elise was arrested for violating a corpse that happened to have been an animal as well so she was double whammied with a bestiality charge.
(But that never happened anyway since there was a huge time paradox anyway)

In all seriousness though, MS wasn't planning on KO'ing the characters on Yoshi's Island. He was going to rip them apart and nuke them.

I dunno how you can 1-up a pile of dust and expect someone to come back to life. Same principles on Sonic's friends. You can revive someone from a state of unconsciousness but you cant resurrect someone who probably been pulverized into mush/ dismembered/had their vital organs expelled from their body by force. He ain't just send them to the Next Dimension (Kudos to those who get that reference) He downright eradicated them. It's like saying "Why couldn't Sonic give put a lot of rings on his dead friends and give them a life up that way".

Also the Super Sonic ability from the Starman is can be theorized as the Starman having the same properties as the chaos emeralds but in small concentrated doses Hence the 10 second time limit.

If you wanna throw questions like that you might as well ask "Why did MS turn super with only 4 chaos emeralds? doesn't he need a powered up Master emerald? It's it just to set up that once he has all 7 he'll be a totally new Droid made just for the series?" Only AE knows.

All in all

[Dimentumn]

Okay then, I didn't want to do this but...I show you my trump card.

In epsiode 6, Sonic has transformed into Super Sonic with the power of a Starman? That can't be right...it's downright impossible. The only way that Sonic can transform into Super Sonic is with the power of the Chaos Emeralds. If Alvin Earthworm tires to make that true, then what stopping me from saying that 1-ups can revive Sonic's friends? Also, where does the Star Spirits came from anyway, I got their help once and it was pretty awesome, but again...? My point is if Sonic can transform into Super Sonic via Starman, then Sonic's friends can be revived via 1-ups, life shrooms, or Pick-me-ups...it doesn't matter. Besides, both Mario and Tails has been knocked out by a powerful enemy, so I'm just saying that Tails and friends can be revive...that is Sonic's main goal.


Sonic's main goal is not to revive them, it's to avenge them.

Also, that is'nt possible, Because I'm pretty sure Mario was only knocked out when Luigi gave him that 1-up.

You're getting way too goddamn technical about a flash series.

[docile_chinchou]

In epsiode 6, Sonic has transformed into Super Sonic with the power of a Starman? That can't be right...it's downright impossible. The only way that Sonic can transform into Super Sonic is with the power of the Chaos Emeralds. If Alvin Earthworm tires to make that true, then what stopping me from saying that 1-ups can revive Sonic's friends? Also, where does the Star Spirits came from anyway, I got their help once and it was pretty awesome, but again...? My point is if Sonic can transform into Super Sonic via Starman, then Sonic's friends can be revived via 1-ups, life shrooms, or Pick-me-ups...it doesn't matter. Besides, both Mario and Tails has been knocked out by a powerful enemy, so I'm just saying that Tails and friends can be revive...that is Sonic's main goal.

OK. It is true that AE could have used Sonic's invincible state instead of Super Sonic in ep 6. I suppose that's one thing you can point out about inconsistencies in the series.

But that doesn't have anything to do with the discussion about 1-ups and bringing people back to life. Like the person before me stated, you can't bring back someone who's dead with conventional healing items especially when they've been impaled or done away with using some gruesome method of slaughter. You use the words "knocked out" again for Tails, which leads me to believe that you still do not understand what I'm trying to say. Mario was only knocked out because he lived through Mecha Sonic's attack on him. Sonic's friends did not just get knocked out by Mecha Sonic; they died by a brutal means. This sort of situation would normally require the assistance of a supernatural force to bring them back to life.

If you argue on the point of "creative license" and that if Super Sonic is used for a Starman, anything can happen, I suppose you can say that they are able to revive them, but on the other side of the spectrum, 1-ups, Life Shrooms, and Pick-me-ups could just not work at all on beings that are not in the Mushroom Kingdom. And if AE were to follow this "creative license" viewpoint, he'd want to keep them dead rather than revive them during the series, since they would just get in the way of the story, as he has stated many times.

The Star Spirits are from Paper Mario.

[IKUSAGAMI]

Okay then, I didn't want to do this but...I show you my trump card.

In epsiode 6, Sonic has transformed into Super Sonic with the power of a Starman? That can't be right...it's downright impossible. The only way that Sonic can transform into Super Sonic is with the power of the Chaos Emeralds. If Alvin Earthworm tires to make that true, then what stopping me from saying that 1-ups can revive Sonic's friends? Also, where does the Star Spirits came from anyway, I got their help once and it was pretty awesome, but again...? My point is if Sonic can transform into Super Sonic via Starman, then Sonic's friends can be revived via 1-ups, life shrooms, or Pick-me-ups...it doesn't matter. Besides, both Mario and Tails has been knocked out by a powerful enemy, so I'm just saying that Tails and friends can be revive...that is Sonic's main goal.


RANT MODE:
YOUR TRUMP CARD SUCKS!!!! YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SMBZ!!!! TAILS AND THE REST OF SONIC'S FRIENDS ARE DEAD!!!! THEIR NOT GOING TO BE REVIVED AND EVEN IF THEY WERE IT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL OF THE SERIES!!!! 1-UP MUSHROOMS ARE USELESS IN THE CASE OF DEATH!!!!
END RANT MODE

Now do you think I like the fact Sonic's friends were killed. Alvin did that to make things easier for himself. I hope this rant has opened your eyes.

[Zombie Kaz]

1-UP MUSHROOMS ARE USELESS IN THE CASE OF DEATH!!!!

It's like when Aerith Died in FF7.

Cloud: "Impaled? Woman you took a nuclear blast to the face by a giant sand worm 20 minutes ago and poof! Phoenix Down and you're all better!

... And you get a flesh wound to the kidney by a guy with a sword and this kills you!?"

[IKUSAGAMI]

Wasn't it shown in a sonic game that chaos emeralds could actually revive the dead?

and in bowsers kingdom, Jeff and Hal used 1-ups to revive the dead princess peach, of course, bowser's kingdom is not SMBZ and Its not canon to the series.

Yes in Sonic 2006 Sonic was revived by the emeralds after Mephiles killed him. That doesn't mean Alvin's going to do the same thing.

[docile_chinchou]

It's like when Aerith Died in FF7.

Cloud: "Impaled? Woman you took a nuclear blast to the face by a giant sand worm 20 minutes ago and poof! Phoenix Down and you're all better!

... And you get a flesh wound to the kidney by a guy with a sword and this kills you!?"

One of the many mysteries that I would like to know the answer to.

[fawfulmk-II]

Ok, I'm Playing Partners in Time right now, and I can finally answer this question: when the character's health goes to 0, it is stated that they faint. since that's the case, that means Mario was K'Oed, not killed. also, saying using a power star can't make sonic go super is like saying a Smash ball can't make him go super.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

One of the many mysteries that I would like to know the answer to.

That's just one of a million...

[Team Galactic Commander Mars]

stop posting in this shit

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

You posted too Khan.

[fawfulmk-II]

HAW HAW!!!!

[Team Galactic Commander Mars]

You posted too Khan.
im trying to kill it

fucking spic

[Quiet Attrition]

im trying to kill it

fucking spic

fuckin cracka

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

im trying to kill it

fucking spic

Well don't post in it faggot.

[Zombie Kaz]

I'd bump this... you know, for everlasting peace... but...

[Holy cow164]

wow... I got a long discussion going...

anyway... I say that they should go to some paper mario place like rogueport to get a chaos emerald and they go int a shop...

Sonic: exuse me but what's this?
Toad: it's a life shroom. it revives you once after dying.
Shadow: hurry up sonic! the more time we spend here, the more time mecha sonic has to find the chaos emeralds!
Sonic: well, thanks anyway...


Skip to end of series: sonic retuns to his world and gives his decapited, lifeless, shells of bodies he calls friends, life shrooms.
Tails: s... ss... soooniic?!? Is that you?
Sonic: yep.
Tails: what happened?
Sonic: I had a little help from some distant friends...

[docile_chinchou]

wow... I got a long discussion going...

anyway... I say that they should go to some paper mario place like rogueport to get a chaos emerald and they go int a shop...

Sonic: exuse me but what's this?
Toad: it's a life shroom. it revives you once after dying.
Shadow: hurry up sonic! the more time we spend here, the more time mecha sonic has to find the chaos emeralds!
Sonic: well, thanks anyway...


Skip to end of series: sonic retuns to his world and gives his decapited, lifeless, shells of bodies he calls friends, life shrooms.
Tails: s... ss... soooniic?!? Is that you?
Sonic: yep.
Tails: what happened?
Sonic: I had a little help from some distant friends...

Read the discussion about bringing back the dead with Life Shrooms. Then decide if your scenario can still apply.

[Zombie Kaz]

Only fan stories have given debate as if a 1 up shroom can revive a dead body.

In DBZ terms, the Chaos Emeralds might be able to use their unlimited energy to revive everyone killed by Mecha but I dont' think a 1up could do the same, only restore consciousness. Even in the Mario Games you don't really die. You just get KO'd

[Holy cow164]

Only fan stories have given debate as if a 1 up shroom can revive a dead body.

In DBZ terms, the Chaos Emeralds might be able to use their unlimited energy to revive everyone killed by Mecha but I dont' think a 1up could do the same, only restore consciousness. Even in the Mario Games you don't really die. You just get KO'd

You're probably right since it would probably make little kids cry if it said You Died! Shame on You! Every time you're health goes down to zero.

[Zombie Kaz]

You're probably right since it would probably make little kids cry if it said You Died! Shame on You! Every time you're health goes down to zero.


OMG I SHOULD TOTALLY WRITE FOR SEGA!

[Vampire Zanji]

The reason why Tails and the rest can't be revived is simple;
Pirncess Elise was arrested for violating a corpse that happened to have been an animal as well so she was double whammied with a bestiality charge.
(But that never happened anyway since there was a huge time paradox anyway)

In all seriousness though, MS wasn't planning on KO'ing the characters on Yoshi's Island. He was going to rip them apart and nuke them.

I dunno how you can 1-up a pile of dust and expect someone to come back to life. Same principles on Sonic's friends. You can revive someone from a state of unconsciousness but you cant resurrect someone who probably been pulverized into mush/ dismembered/had their vital organs expelled from their body by force. He ain't just send them to the Next Dimension (Kudos to those who get that reference) He downright eradicated them. It's like saying "Why couldn't Sonic give put a lot of rings on his dead friends and give them a life up that way".

Also the Super Sonic ability from the Starman is can be theorized as the Starman having the same properties as the chaos emeralds but in small concentrated doses Hence the 10 second time limit.

If you wanna throw questions like that you might as well ask "Why did MS turn super with only 4 chaos emeralds? doesn't he need a powered up Master emerald? It's it just to set up that once he has all 7 he'll be a totally new Droid made just for the series?" Only AE knows.

All in all

First of all, I'm not even going to go with a response about Elise. Second of all, Alvin Earthworm call this so called Super Metal Sonic "Semi Super Metal Sonic" Or Cell form 2 to be more precise. Finally, the Star Man theory can be easily proven wrong with Super Smash Bros Brawl.

Sonic's main goal is not to revive them, it's to avenge them.

Also, that is'nt possible, Because I'm pretty sure Mario was only knocked out when Luigi gave him that 1-up.

You're getting way too goddamn technical about a flash series.

If it was any other flash, I'll probably let it slide, but this is Super Mario and Sonic the Hedgehog we're talking about. Besides, when Sonic die in "Sonic the Hedgehog 2006" (As when some people tried to use it to prove me wrong) Sonic's friends didn't just say "No, Sonic. Man, we're going to avenge him." NO! They save him with the power of the Chaos Emeralds and Elise.

OK. It is true that AE could have used Sonic's invincible state instead of Super Sonic in ep 6. I suppose that's one thing you can point out about inconsistencies in the series.

But that doesn't have anything to do with the discussion about 1-ups and bringing people back to life. Like the person before me stated, you can't bring back someone who's dead with conventional healing items especially when they've been impaled or done away with using some gruesome method of slaughter. You use the words "knocked out" again for Tails, which leads me to believe that you still do not understand what I'm trying to say. Mario was only knocked out because he lived through Mecha Sonic's attack on him. Sonic's friends did not just get knocked out by Mecha Sonic; they died by a brutal means. This sort of situation would normally require the assistance of a supernatural force to bring them back to life.

If you argue on the point of "creative license" and that if Super Sonic is used for a Starman, anything can happen, I suppose you can say that they are able to revive them, but on the other side of the spectrum, 1-ups, Life Shrooms, and Pick-me-ups could just not work at all on beings that are not in the Mushroom Kingdom. And if AE were to follow this "creative license" viewpoint, he'd want to keep them dead rather than revive them during the series, since they would just get in the way of the story, as he has stated many times.

The Star Spirits are from Paper Mario.

Okay then, if 1-ups, Life-Shrooms, Pick-me-ups, or anything else I can think of can’t work, then the only thing left to do is to sit back and watch what happens next…If you haven't cave in to my trump card. When you say "1-ups, Life Shrooms, and Pick-me-ups could just not work at all on being that are not in the Mushromm Kingdom" you just dug your own grave. If that's true, then there's NO WAY THAT SONIC CAN TRANSFORM AT ALL!!!!!!!! Not with the Starman or with the Star Spirits!!!!!!!!!



RANT MODE:
YOUR TRUMP CARD SUCKS!!!! YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SMBZ!!!! TAILS AND THE REST OF SONIC'S FRIENDS ARE DEAD!!!! THEIR NOT GOING TO BE REVIVED AND EVEN IF THEY WERE IT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL OF THE SERIES!!!! 1-UP MUSHROOMS ARE USELESS IN THE CASE OF DEATH!!!!
END RANT MODE

Now do you think I like the fact Sonic's friends were killed. Alvin did that to make things easier for himself. I hope this rant has opened your eyes.

Oh it's open my eyes alright. I was about to admit defeat earlier until I saw your post. I have to thank you for that. The part when you say "Alvin did that to make things easier for himself." So in other words, Alvin Earthworm wanted to get rid of Sonic friends so they "won't get in the way." If Sonic's friends weren’t dead, then there's no reason to go to Mario's universe and trying to revive them instead of avenging them will only mess up the flow of Super Mario Bros Z. Therefore, the whole series will have even more holes than Swiss cheese.

Oh yeah, and by the way...about my trump card...sometimes being the best, isn't always best.

wow... I got a long discussion going...

anyway... I say that they should go to some paper mario place like rogueport to get a chaos emerald and they go int a shop...

Sonic: exuse me but what's this?
Toad: it's a life shroom. it revives you once after dying.
Shadow: hurry up sonic! the more time we spend here, the more time mecha sonic has to find the chaos emeralds!
Sonic: well, thanks anyway...


Skip to end of series: sonic retuns to his world and gives his decapited, lifeless, shells of bodies he calls friends, life shrooms.
Tails: s... ss... soooniic?!? Is that you?
Sonic: yep.
Tails: what happened?
Sonic: I had a little help from some distant friends...

Once again, thanks for the idea Holy cow164. Your spirit is the only one that actually make sense in this topic.

[docile_chinchou]

Okay then, if 1-ups, Life-Shrooms, Pick-me-ups, or anything else I can think of can’t work, then the only thing left to do is to sit back and watch what happens next…If you haven't cave in to my trump card. When you say "1-ups, Life Shrooms, and Pick-me-ups could just not work at all on being that are not in the Mushromm Kingdom" you just dug your own grave. If that's true, then there's NO WAY THAT SONIC CAN TRANSFORM AT ALL!!!!!!!! Not with the Starman or with the Star Spirits!!!!!!!!!

Just because I said 1-ups, Life Shrooms, and Pick-me-ups may not work on non-Mushroom Kingdom residents, it doesn't mean that all other power-ups can't work.

I'm talking from YOUR point of creative license. You are mixing your points about the logical way of what can happen and about creative license into one inconsistent argument. You said that just because the Starman would not normally turn Sonic into Super Sonic, that anything can happen. Well, I say, from that point of view, that it's possible that 1-ups can't work, but Starmen can. And this is most likely Alvin's stance on the issue as well, since he does not want Sonic's friends revived to take up unnecessary space on the SMBZ hero team. If you are talking from the logical point, however, I stand by my argument that conventional healing items can only revive people that are still alive.

If Sonic's friends weren’t dead, then there's no reason to go to Mario's universe and trying to revive them instead of avenging them will only mess up the flow of Super Mario Bros Z. Therefore, the whole series will have even more holes than Swiss cheese.

I don't believe that Sonic would be so dishonorable as to act with a "Oh, nothing bad happened in Mobius, but that monster Mecha Sonic is now in this Mushroom Kingdom and we sent the Chaos Emeralds there to prevent him from using it here, so it's none of our business anymore; who cares about them?" attitude. I admit I haven't played any of the new Sonic games past Shadow the Hedgehog, but with all the anime stereotypes found in Japanese series protagonists nowadays, I don't think Sonic would be far off from what I said.

Incidentally, I believe there was a mention in one of the episodes about how Sonic found it necessary to prevent what happened on Mobius from happening to the Mushroom Kingdom.

Besides, when Sonic die in "Sonic the Hedgehog 2006" (As when some people tried to use it to prove me wrong) Sonic's friends didn't just say "No, Sonic. Man, we're going to avenge him." NO! They save him with the power of the Chaos Emeralds and Elise.

I don't know if he or Shadow is supposed to remember that.

[Vampire Zanji]

WOW! I waited for a week and only one person say something? How embarrassing...

Anyway, before I begin, let me tell you something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwRzkS7W-GY BGM

All Holy Cow164 want to know is there's a way to bring back Tails and company with 1-ups? Since nobody says anything, I decided to say that Sonic and Shadow bring back 1-ups to revive Sonic the Hedgehog friends. Holy Cow164 was happy and I just left it at that...until you came into the picture and say that 1-ups can't revive a dead person. It's kinda strange that you say that 1-ups can't revive somebody after I say something. Then I counter, you counter, ete...then some people agree with you because you're friends with Earthworm and try to prove me wrong. Then my vampire Ki rose even higher as I strike one by one. And now it come down to this…The only reason why I'm here in this topic is to pick up the remaining shards of hope on how to revive Tails and company while Alvin is delaying episode 8 by making "mature pictures" of Nintendo Characters “who do that anyway?”, complain about his heater and any other excuse he can come up with, and striking a finger that's between the pointer and index finger if anybody says anything about episode 8. Here's some proof if you don't believe me...From the Earthworm’s mouth himself…I'm sorry if you poke an eye out. (http://alvin-earthworm.deviantart.com/)
(End BGM)

Now since we got that out of the way, let begin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlS7MH_Xs8c (Start another BGM)

Kdorimastvarvposesti Quote:
Originally Posted by Vampire Zanji
Okay then, if 1-ups, Life-Shrooms, Pick-me-ups, or anything else I can think of can’t work, then the only thing left to do is to sit back and watch what happens next…If you haven't cave in to my trump card. When you say "1-ups, Life Shrooms, and Pick-me-ups could just not work at all on being that are not in the Mushromm Kingdom" you just dug your own grave. If that's true, then there's NO WAY THAT SONIC CAN TRANSFORM AT ALL!!!!!!!! Not with the Starman or with the Star Spirits!!!!!!!!!

Just because I said 1-ups, Life Shrooms, and Pick-me-ups may not work on non-Mushroom Kingdom residents, it doesn't mean that all other power-ups can't work.

Oh, we’re playing the “Whatever I say works but whoever counters doesn’t work” game. I knew you would put something like this soon. Plus, Tails and company are not a pile of ashes; their bodies are still there on the burning flames of Mobius (used in Stage 1 Act 1 and 2 in Sonic the Hedgehog 3 just in case). (Sigh) I guess we have to do this the fun way. Okay then, if the 1-up falls into a person mouth, then their metabosim will start flowing and the heart will start pumping again, and finally the spirit of the hero will rise again. Plus, what all this about licenses anyway, either your ideas are new or not, it’s that simple really. Also, if the Star Spirits can make Mario transform, why didn’t he use it to transform during the fight with Bowser in Paper Mario? Still nothing? (Sigh)

Star Sprite 10%
Power Star 7%
Fire Flower 5%
Starman 4%
Feather 8%
Frog Suit 7%
Racoon Suit 7%
and 15 other elements.

Those are my vision of a common 1-up in the world of SMBZ. Why did I say all of that, well it's simple... I’m an Alchemist. In other words science is the key to everything. We’ve never tried a 1-up on someone dead, how do we really know if it truly works or not unless we test it first. Like I say earlier, my ideas are the closest thing to perfection for Super Mario Bros Z. It’s not that hard to mix it up. I say that if the Chaos Emeralds can exist in the Mushroom Kingdom, then 1-ups can exist in Mobius and then any item from the Mushroom Kingdom will work on Sonic friends. I stop waiting for Alvin to get off his lazy butt and pick up your own opinions about SMBZ.

My ideas are the closest thing to perfection for Super Mario Bros Z.

I'd be careful with this kind of statement, it could cause all sorts of trouble. Just a friendly note.

Also I'd think Alvin's would be the closest, next being Docile Chinchou...

First of all, sorry about that…I didn’t know you say something…and second of all, It’s just a customize line of what Edward Elric says (or my avatar to be more precise) And speaking of lines “And so is Alvin…he’s just a Earthworm. And if anybody depends on him to finish SMBZ, then all you do is be imcomplete.

[docile_chinchou]

WOW! I waited for a week and only one person say something? How embarrassing...

They do have other things to do. They do not need to answer if they do not want to.

All Holy Cow164 want to know is there's a way to bring back Tails and company with 1-ups? Since nobody says anything, I decided to say that Sonic and Shadow bring back 1-ups to revive Sonic the Hedgehog friends. Holy Cow164 was happy and I just left it at that...until you came into the picture and say that 1-ups can't revive a dead person.

You misunderstand me. I am not trying to prove you wrong. There is no consensus in any of these issues and there is no official word from Nintendo in any of these matters, so this is all up in the air. I am giving my opinion and some reasons for why I support it and not yours.

It's kinda strange that you say that 1-ups can't revive somebody after I say something.

Of course. I spotted something that I did not agree with, and wanted to proceed to a discussion. How else could it have gone?

Then I counter, you counter, ete...then some people agree with you because you're friends with Earthworm and try to prove me wrong.

I don't believe that they are sheep to Alvin or anyone close to him. They disagreed with your views because they disagreed with your views.

Then my vampire Ki rose even higher as I strike one by one.

I must ask you for your age.

And now it come down to this…The only reason why I'm here in this topic is to pick up the remaining shards of hope on how to revive Tails and company while Alvin is delaying episode 8 by making "mature pictures" of Nintendo Characters “who do that anyway?”, complain about his heater and any other excuse he can come up with, and striking a finger that's between the pointer and index finger if anybody says anything about episode 8. Here's some proof if you don't believe me...From the Earthworm’s mouth himself…I'm sorry if you poke an eye out. (http://alvin-earthworm.deviantart.com/)

His reason for not working on the series is because he does not feel like it, not because he needs to do those things you listed.

Now since we got that out of the way, let begin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlS7MH_Xs8c (Start another BGM)

No need to be dramatic. We are here for a (relatively) intelligent discussion.

Oh, we’re playing the “Whatever I say works but whoever counters doesn’t work” game. I knew you would put something like this soon.

No offense, but I find more of this attitude coming from you. I have attempted to understand your arguments and to make decent points against them while bringing up new points to back up my opinion and predict Alvin's course of action. In some cases, however, I find you either skip some of them or dismiss them altogether as wrong and don't explain why. If you find something that you feel is wrong, explain it, and if necessary, I will clear up any misunderstandings and raise new issues. If you don't explain why, I will not know why you don't understand and therefore cannot continue to discuss any of the misunderstood topics.

In any case, that was not a case of "Your opinion doesn't matter, I win" from me. I have used the imagination scenario to logically explain why it is possible for 1-Ups not to work on dead bodies. Read through my posts and do not ignore the rest of my arguments if you disagree with something at the beginning. If you still do not follow my logic after all this time, I shall try a different approach next post to try to get you to follow.

Plus, Tails and company are not a pile of ashes; their bodies are still there on the burning flames of Mobius (used in Stage 1 Act 1 and 2 in Sonic the Hedgehog 3 just in case). (Sigh) I guess we have to do this the fun way. Okay then, if the 1-up falls into a person mouth, then their metabosim will start flowing and the heart will start pumping again, and finally the spirit of the hero will rise again.

You are assuming that that is how 1-Up Mushrooms work. I'm not saying that it is impossible for it to not happen like that, but there is little to no canon evidence from the main games that can be used to prove that that is how they indeed work in that way. This paves the way to Alvin's imagination, which based on his bias for keeping dead characters dead, will probably lead to them not working on people whose hearts have stopped.

Plus, what all this about licenses anyway, either your ideas are new or not, it’s that simple really.

It's called imagination, which may or may not follow my, your, or any fan's logic. You may believe a 1-Up Mushroom is this way, while another fan may believe it is another way.

Also, if the Star Spirits can make Mario transform, why didn’t he use it to transform during the fight with Bowser in Paper Mario? Still nothing?

SMBZ is not canon, which means any logic applied in this fan series does not apply to the canon one. The canon series, however, may have its logic applied in SMBZ, but Alvin may pick and choose which he wants to follow.

(Sigh)

I must ask, is this attitude you're showing me part of your Alchemist persona, or are you like this to others in real life?

Star Sprite 10%
Power Star 7%
Fire Flower 5%
Starman 4%
Feather 8%
Frog Suit 7%
Racoon Suit 7%
and 15 other elements.

Those are my vision of a common 1-up in the world of SMBZ. Why did I say all of that, well it's simple... I’m an Alchemist. In other words science is the key to everything.

All righty, then.

We’ve never tried a 1-up on someone dead, how do we really know if it truly works or not unless we test it first.

This isn't real life, for your information. 1-Ups exist only in fiction. If Alvin says something doesn't work, then it doesn't work. Even if he makes Sonic "try" out a 1-Up on his dead friends, it won't do anything if Alvin doesn't want it to.

Like I say earlier, my ideas are the closest thing to perfection for Super Mario Bros Z. It’s not that hard to mix it up. I say that if the Chaos Emeralds can exist in the Mushroom Kingdom, then 1-ups can exist in Mobius and then any item from the Mushroom Kingdom will work on Sonic friends. I stop waiting for Alvin to get off his lazy butt and pick up your own opinions about SMBZ.

I will respect your opinion on this work of fiction, but I also have my own, which I have stated in previous posts, and have attempted to engage in discussion to understand your point of view better. However, it appears that you think I am trying to invalidate your opinion by presenting counterarguments to it. That is not the case.

My ideas are the closest thing to perfection for Super Mario Bros Z.

You may believe that. But I will believe that mine are the best. And I'm sure any other fan would also believe that their opinions are the best and may engage in discussions about them.

First of all, sorry about that…I didn’t know you say something…and second of all, It’s just a customize line of what Edward Elric says (or my avatar to be more precise) And speaking of lines “And so is Alvin…he’s just a Earthworm. And if anybody depends on him to finish SMBZ, then all you do is be imcomplete.

You can always make it yourself, according to your liking.

[Holy cow164]

First of all, I'm not even going to go with a response about Elise. Second of all, Alvin Earthworm call this so called Super Metal Sonic "Semi Super Metal Sonic" Or Cell form 2 to be more precise. Finally, the Star Man theory can be easily proven wrong with Super Smash Bros Brawl.



If it was any other flash, I'll probably let it slide, but this is Super Mario and Sonic the Hedgehog we're talking about. Besides, when Sonic die in "Sonic the Hedgehog 2006" (As when some people tried to use it to prove me wrong) Sonic's friends didn't just say "No, Sonic. Man, we're going to avenge him." NO! They save him with the power of the Chaos Emeralds and Elise.



Okay then, if 1-ups, Life-Shrooms, Pick-me-ups, or anything else I can think of can’t work, then the only thing left to do is to sit back and watch what happens next…If you haven't cave in to my trump card. When you say "1-ups, Life Shrooms, and Pick-me-ups could just not work at all on being that are not in the Mushromm Kingdom" you just dug your own grave. If that's true, then there's NO WAY THAT SONIC CAN TRANSFORM AT ALL!!!!!!!! Not with the Starman or with the Star Spirits!!!!!!!!!





Oh it's open my eyes alright. I was about to admit defeat earlier until I saw your post. I have to thank you for that. The part when you say "Alvin did that to make things easier for himself." So in other words, Alvin Earthworm wanted to get rid of Sonic friends so they "won't get in the way." If Sonic's friends weren’t dead, then there's no reason to go to Mario's universe and trying to revive them instead of avenging them will only mess up the flow of Super Mario Bros Z. Therefore, the whole series will have even more holes than Swiss cheese.

Oh yeah, and by the way...about my trump card...sometimes being the best, isn't always best.



Once again, thanks for the idea Holy cow164. Your spirit is the only one that actually make sense in this topic.
Wouldn't mecha sonic have still gone to the mushroom kingdom to claim the emeralds, but sonic would have more backup then.

[docile_chinchou]

Wouldn't mecha sonic have still gone to the mushroom kingdom to claim the emeralds, but sonic would have more backup then.

Yeah, that's basically what I said. Even if Sonic's friends were not killed, Sonic would have still felt it was necessary to retrieve the Emeralds and stop Mecha. He could go with Shadow or any of his other friends that weren't killed.

[SupremeBunny]

Yeah, that's basically what I said. Even if Sonic's friends were not killed, Sonic would have still felt it was necessary to retrieve the Emeralds and stop Mecha. He could go with Shadow or any of his other friends that weren't killed.

Exactly. Im pretty sure Sonic's not going to let Mecha Sonic find the Emeralds and become one of the Strongest Entities that could do anything he wants. He would still go either way.

P.S.
Oooh! Your Docile!? Hey its been awhile :D

[Vampire Zanji]

I really hate to burst your bubble, but I haven’t given up yet. In episode 4, Shadow was in contact with the Chaos Emeralds, so why he didn’t just transform into Super Shadow and beat up Metal Sonic? Plus, it’s just a theory, but how to we even know that Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Cream and Cheese are even dead in the first place? We didn’t really saw Metal Sonic finish them off, so how do we know? Plus, Sonic is faster than a speeding Bullet Bill, so I know for a fact that Sonic can reach Tails in a blink of a eye…just to let you know.

On a side note, I have another bubble to pop…if you tried to shield yourself with Nintendo Logic, then I break it through with Sega Logic. In other words…if you can’t revive Sonic’s friends with a 1-up, then Metal Sonic cannot kill Tails and company because of Sega’s logic. Even if you try to countered with “Sonic the Hedgehog 2006” (even though I’m the only one here who “actually” played the game and enjoy it to the fullest!), you only prove me right that the first thing Sonic would have done is “Save Tails and company first.” But instead, Sonic ran like a coward. There are a lot of things that Sonic the Hedgehog does, and one of them isn’t running away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Metal Sonic: Bring the Chaos Emeralds and get rid of Sonic’s friends…alive or otherwise
Sonic: Question from the crowd!
Metal Sonic: What is it?!
Sonic: My friends are worth wayyyyyy more than that!

This beatdown has been brought to you by your friend Vampire Zanji.

[docile_chinchou]

I really hate to burst your bubble, but I haven’t given up yet. In episode 4, Shadow was in contact with the Chaos Emeralds, so why he didn’t just transform into Super Shadow and beat up Metal Sonic? Plus, it’s just a theory, but how to we even know that Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Cream and Cheese are even dead in the first place? We didn’t really saw Metal Sonic finish them off, so how do we know? Plus, Sonic is faster than a speeding Bullet Bill, so I know for a fact that Sonic can reach Tails in a blink of a eye…just to let you know.

I have no bubble to burst. This is a discussion in which we state our views, not a matter of life or death. Anyway, since I do not play a lot of Sonic games, I must ask you the following explanation can be valid. Alvin says that Sonic and Shadow cannot gain power through the Chaos Emeralds individually; only if all seven are together can their power be increased. And there is certainly a possibility that Sonic's friends never died; I've held this viewpoint as well. I will say this, however. Sonic may be able to reach Tails in the blink of an eye, but he first must know where Tails was in order to reach him. It is possible that Mecha found and killed Tails before Sonic figured it out. Sonic may be fast physically, but probably not as much mentally.

Sega Logic

Clarify. What exactly is it? You have only showed here you think it exists.

But instead, Sonic ran like a coward. There are a lot of things that Sonic the Hedgehog does, and one of them isn’t running away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe I already made a counterpoint to this in another thread. First, Sonic never said he ran away. Second, he may not have known where Tails was in order to save him in time. Finally, he couldn't have known that Metal Sonic fused with three older models and received enhanced capabilities until after he figured everything out, which would take time, possibly after checking out the ruins of the Death Egg. How are you so sure that Sonic acted like a coward here? I would think that Sonic would save his friends if he could, like you said.

This beatdown has been brought to you by your friend Vampire Zanji.

This gangrape has been brought to you by your helpful neighborhood docile_chinchou. =D

Btw, I appreciate the speed of your reply this time around. The discussion gets awfully boring when you don't reply for 2 weeks.

[I-Rock]

Ima Alvin this thread later on MSN cause he would die of laughter.

But DC is right whoever you are. I mean come on he has given you sufficient evidence, that Tails is completely obliterated. Meaning no trace of his body found, at all. How do you expect to use a 1-up on something non existant?

FYI Alvin stated that the 1-ups are like Sensu Beans, and we all know sensu beans can only revive someone who is either knocked out, or low on life. If they are dead, the Sensu Bean won't work.

[IKUSAGAMI]

I really hate to burst your bubble, but I haven’t given up yet. In episode 4, Shadow was in contact with the Chaos Emeralds, so why he didn’t just transform into Super Shadow and beat up Metal Sonic? Plus, it’s just a theory, but how to we even know that Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Cream and Cheese are even dead in the first place? We didn’t really saw Metal Sonic finish them off, so how do we know? Plus, Sonic is faster than a speeding Bullet Bill, so I know for a fact that Sonic can reach Tails in a blink of a eye…just to let you know.

On a side note, I have another bubble to pop…if you tried to shield yourself with Nintendo Logic, then I break it through with Sega Logic. In other words…if you can’t revive Sonic’s friends with a 1-up, then Metal Sonic cannot kill Tails and company because of Sega’s logic. Even if you try to countered with “Sonic the Hedgehog 2006” (even though I’m the only one here who “actually” played the game and enjoy it to the fullest!), you only prove me right that the first thing Sonic would have done is “Save Tails and company first.” But instead, Sonic ran like a coward. There are a lot of things that Sonic the Hedgehog does, and one of them isn’t running away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Metal Sonic: Bring the Chaos Emeralds and get rid of Sonic’s friends…alive or otherwise
Sonic: Question from the crowd!
Metal Sonic: What is it?!
Sonic: My friends are worth wayyyyyy more than that!

This beatdown has been brought to you by your friend Vampire Zanji.



I played Sonic 2006 and beat all four stories. I know everything that happened in that game. Sonic is no coward. Why don't you lay in your coffin for a few million years.

[I-Rock]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2rcn91x.jpg SMBZ is on some serious business for some people. I mean it's cool to debate stuff about it, but to get obsessed with it like this Vamp guy, it's not healthy.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

At first I thought Zanji was an idiot.

Now I am sure he is, in fact, an idiot.

[I-Rock]

Furthermore, I notice this Vamp guy throughout the thread is RPing like crazy. Like seriously my du, RPing to make a point? http://i40.tinypic.com/eg0hj.gifhttp://i40.tinypic.com/eg0hj.gifhttp://i40.tinypic.com/eg0hj.gif

I respect the people who love the series here, which is hy instead o making fun of SMBZ Fans like the majority of people here, I actually talk to them one on one. But du you taking it to a new level. When there is sufficient evidence against your arguments, you can't argue it. It's a fan series, nowhere near Canon. Bringing Brawl, Sega Logic/Nintendo Logic into this is going way out the realms of fan series.

[Jensoman]

Finally, he couldn't have known that Metal Sonic fused with three older models and received enhanced capabilities until after he figured everything out, which would take time, possibly after checking out the ruins of the Death Egg. How are you so sure that Sonic acted like a coward here? I would think that Sonic would save his friends if he could, like you said.
this time around.

How did he find out about him fusing with 3 other models,by investigating the ruins? lol

[I-Rock]

At first I thought Zanji was an idiot.

Now I am sure he is, in fact, an idiot.

I don't think du is an idiot, he just likes arguing a mute point by bringing stuff in his arguemnts that make no sense. His brawl Analogy is completely flawed, especially since SMBZ doesn't even deal with Brawl.

[I-Rock]

How did he find out about him fusing with 3 other models,by investigating the ruins? lol

That's gonna be answered later in the series he said.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

How did he find out about him fusing with 3 other models,by investigating the ruins? lol

Data Archives. Or viewing security camera footage.

I don't think du is an idiot, he just likes arguing a mute point by bringing stuff in his arguemnts that make no sense. His brawl Analogy is completely flawed, especially since SMBZ doesn't even deal with Brawl.

Like I said, an idiot. You don't go to an argument with stuff that makes no sense. It's like going to sword battle with no swords and still hope to win.

[Jensoman]

Data Archives. Or viewing security camera footage.

Ah,i see. but didnt the cameras get seriously damaged by Mecha Sonic's hand?

[I-Rock]

Ah,i see. but didnt the cameras get seriously damaged by Mecha Sonic's hand?

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[Dimentumn]

Goddamn lock this thread already

[I-Rock]

Goddamn lock this thread already

Why? Provide a good reason to. DC decides whether to lock a thread or not. No mini modding.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

Ah,i see. but didnt the cameras get seriously damaged by Mecha Sonic's hand?

No, what the hell are you talking about? The Death Egg is damaged beyond repair no doubt, but Sonic and Shadow managed to turn it online, see episode 4 for this. I assume that when they were looking for data on what happened, they saw Mecha's transformation sequence happen and how he took the Death Egg down, causing the dinosaur shit era to happen in Mobius.

[I-Rock]

Hello 1 guest viewing this thread, how are you?

[Jensoman]

Allrighty. And now i say. JENSOMAN OUT!

[docile_chinchou]

Or Mecha could have just told Sonic about what he did after he killed everyone and confronted him.

[I-Rock]

Or Mecha could have just told Sonic about what he did after he killed everyone and confronted him.

Exactly. He did have a discussion with Sonic and told him how everything went down before the fight, from how he survived, to just about everything there needs to be known. I don't get why people don't think of that.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

That's boring.

Data searching ftw.

[Jensoman]

We seek answers of the episodes,since Alvin-Earthworm stopped SMBZ,for his personal life.

[docile_chinchou]

Furthermore, I notice this Vamp guy throughout the thread is RPing like crazy. Like seriously my du, RPing to make a point? http://i40.tinypic.com/eg0hj.gifhttp://i40.tinypic.com/eg0hj.gifhttp://i40.tinypic.com/eg0hj.gif

Yeah, I noticed. Didn't think that contributed at all. He needs to lose the patronizing attitude towards everyone who disagrees with him, too.

[I-Rock]

Yeah, I noticed. Didn't think that contributed at all. He needs to lose the patronizing attitude towards everyone who disagrees with him, too.

What I noticed is that he does this to piss you off in a way, not to contibute to the thread, but to further make you argue with him. He's been doing it so far in all the posts i've seen him do here, which makes me think he's not taking the debate serious.

His patronizing attitude i'll admit is annoying, and can get to some people's heads, but honestly, I don't think he even realizes it. It just seems his entire arguments and points were RolePlayed instead of actually caring about SMBZ.

[IKUSAGAMI]

We seek answers of the episodes,since Alvin-Earthworm stopped SMBZ,for his personal life.

Jensoman He didn't stop he got a new heater and he'll resume when ready.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

Reminds me of Smash Bros Z.

[Jensoman]

Only the future shall show ye,buddy.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

Jensoman He didn't stop he got a new heater and he'll resume when ready.

In other words when his personal life leaves him alone.

Which so far has been almost never.

[I-Rock]

In other words when his personal life leaves him alone.

Which so far has been almost never.

People really need to get to know the du for himself instead of his work.

he's mad cool to talk to one on one.

[Jensoman]

Its impossible to meet him in person. Hes to much of a celebrity on VGLan. And hes probably scared of fan boys saying:OMG ITS ALVIN EARTHWORMZZZZ I LOVE YAAAAA

[docile_chinchou]

People really need to get to know the du for himself instead of his work.

he's mad cool to talk to one on one.

True. Although, sometimes it's hard to keep a conversation since I think his Internet connection isn't so good. Sometimes, he never replies to my messages unless I send them twice or even three times. Have you had this problem?

[I-Rock]

Its impossible to meet him in person. Hes to much of a celebrity on VGLan. And hes probably scared of fan boys saying:OMG ITS ALVIN EARTHWORMZZZZ I LOVE YAAAAA

That's what he says about me, yet he said he'd chill with me in the UK.

Seriously, him and I have had this disussion before, and while it's flattering that he's known for his work, he wants to be known for his real life self too, which people don't seem to care about. Instead of hyping him up, try to think that he's just a regular human being like I am just living life.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

Be grateful we don't know how he looks in real life or the fanboys would be hijacking planes to UK.

[I-Rock]

True. Although, sometimes it's hard to keep a conversation since I think his Internet connection isn't so good. Sometimes, he never replies to my messages unless I send them twice or even three times.

http://i40.tinypic.com/16bkcw4.gif I told his ass to fix his shit, lol.

He replies to me maaaaaaddd quick, but when he doesn,t I know his ass is on World Of Warcraft. It has eaten him up, although he got that movitvation again recently to draw. His works coming out pretty nice.

best way for him to reply is just say the magic word he likes, trust me he will reply, lol.

[Jensoman]

I would like to meet him in person.(If i ever could) and talk with him.

[I-Rock]

But on topic, Vamp, chillax my du. RPing an argument, is no bueno my du.

[I-Rock]

I would like to meet him in person.(If i ever could) and talk with him.

He doesn't like fanboys sadly. He only likes people who actually want to get to know him.

[docile_chinchou]

best way for him to reply is just say the magic word he likes, trust me he will reply, lol.

Yep, I've learned from talking to him. Anyway, I think we should get back on topic.

[Jensoman]

I am not a fanboy. I just wanna know whats going on with him lately.

[I-Rock]

Yep, I've learned from talking to him. Anyway, I think we should get back on topic.

Yeah. On topic, you right about everything, since you not only kept your calm throughout the debate, but you brought up solid points. The whole "This can be proven by Brawl" argument he said, is easily flawed. In Brawl, Mario and Luigi can throw Fireballs without the need of a Fire Flower, yet in SMBZ they need one to throw a Fireball. So I don't really see the point of him throwing that out there.

[docile_chinchou]

Brawl isn't canon in either the Mario or the Sonic series, either.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

Smash Bros. isn't canon to anything. Zanji was grasping for strings there.

[I-Rock]

Brawl isn't canon in either the Mario or the Sonic series, either.

Exactly, him bring that up when he says all of his points are from the canon series, yet throwing Brawl in this, defeats his arguments completely.

Even in his DBZ analogy, a 1-Up Mushroom, which is a Sensu Bean in SMBZ, cannot revive the dead, it can only recover their energy.

That M&L SS analogy thing too is flawed as well.

[IKUSAGAMI]

He's lost now.

[I-Rock]

I really hate to burst your bubble, but I haven’t given up yet. In episode 4, Shadow was in contact with the Chaos Emeralds, so why he didn’t just transform into Super Shadow and beat up Metal Sonic? Plus, it’s just a theory, but how to we even know that Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Cream and Cheese are even dead in the first place? We didn’t really saw Metal Sonic finish them off, so how do we know? Plus, Sonic is faster than a speeding Bullet Bill, so I know for a fact that Sonic can reach Tails in a blink of a eye…just to let you know.

This beatdown has been brought to you by your friend Vampire Zanji.

Sonic can't detect power levels in SMBZ, only Shadow can.

Hellz even in Ep 7 Mario felt Mechas energy faster than Sonic, as demonstrated in the beginning of the fight. Sonic just kept walking.

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This truthful post has been brought to you by Kimberly<3

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

Bottom line is that Zanji can't argue for shit.

Got it.

[IKUSAGAMI]

Bottom line is that Zanji can't argue for shit.

Got it.

Let's stuff him full of garlic.

[docile_chinchou]

Sonic can't detect power levels in SMBZ, only Shadow can.

Hellz even in Ep 7 Mario felt Mechas energy faster than Sonic, as demonstrated in the beginning of the fight. Sonic just kept walking.

Exactly the reason why I said Sonic would have had to take time to find out a) what in the hell happened when the Death Egg crashed, b) a new Mecha Sonic was on the loose, and c) that he was going to kill his friends.

He can't know this right from the beginning, so he couldn't just "speed over" and save Tails right when the Death Egg crashed.

And ohhhhhhhhhhh, that's how you put YouTube vids in your post. K, got it.

[I-Rock]

Ok let's just wait for him to return to see what he has to say.

And the 2 guests lurking here, join, i'll show you around the site<3

[I-Rock]

Exactly the reason why I said Sonic would have had to take time to find out a) what in the hell happened when the Death Egg crashed, b) a new Mecha Sonic was on the loose, and c) that he was going to kill his friends.

He can't know this right from the beginning, so he couldn't just "speed over" and save Tails right when the Death Egg crashed.

Exactly. If Sonic would have just "speed over" it wouldn't make a fraction of sense storywise. Sonic had to learn what was going on before he realized this. All Sonic knew was that the Death Egg crashed, he didn't know the cause of it. Vamp needs to look at logic instead of just rambling about questions.

[docile_chinchou]

Ok let's just wait for him to return to see what he has to say.

inb4 sthg like "Wow, a lot of people joined the discussion! OK, I'll beat you all down, too! I know SMBZ more than you think!"

[I-Rock]

inb4 sthg like "Wow, a lot of people joined the discussion! OK, I'll beat you all down, too! I know SMBZ more than you think!"

I put my account up that he says not only that, but tries to nitpick the facts to turn it into his favor, thus dragging on a debate that is easily being won over by facts instead of specualtion.

And yeah I peeped that "I know SMBZ more than you think" comment.

How does he know more about SMBZ than you and me, when we actually know the shit behind the scenes and you actually contributed ideas to the story?

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

Vampire Zanji is officially the new Smash Bros Z.

[Razz]

First off, I-Rock, if those are pics of you then I must apologize for this comment before I state it. I refuse to believe it is you. No woman that hot would dare be a VG geek, and if so, wouldn't come out in the open about it. The fact you're posting on these forums (or ANY forums) alone is making me skeptical beyond belief. Impossible. Nothing can convince me otherwise. Again, I apologize.

Next, after reading the interview, it left me rather confused when he said "Hope you look forward to the rest of the series," at the end of the interview...um, what series? A series actually has a time slot of when they will be released. Since he refuses to schedule his episodes, why should I care anything about the series anymore when I could be an old, wrinkly, gray-haired man, suffering diarrhea at random times, by the time Episode 8 is released?

Personally, I believe in schedule dates. It sets up an expectation, a goal, and (hopefully) some freaking motivation. The fans, alone, should be enough motivation. It also shuts people up and people can actually discuss about SMBZ rather than half the posts being "When's the next episode?" Don't you want people to ~discuss~ about SMBZ and not worry about when the next one is coming out?

Banning people from asking such a question is an empty threat of telling people "Please talk about SMBZ, not when it's coming out" because I really don't see how we should have any ~motivation~ to talk about a "series" when an episode doesn't come out for 2+ years (or even bothers to release at all!).

And, yes, I am probably going to hear "He has a life other than doing SMBZ episodes" and I am simply going to reply with "Then he should end the series now, or make his next episode end the series and continue his life rather than playing games with other people's lives by forcing them to wait forever on a new episode."

That's just my opinion on the matter, people can now break down and start flaming if they have to.

[PKMN Trainer Gold]

Hi new faggot.

[I-Rock]

I've made fan signs, made vids, and got on webcam for people. I'm real my du, met a couple of peeps here too.

The thing is that, just cause ima chick don't mean I can't post on forums involving games. Being judgemental like that is very shallow of you and won't get you anywhere in life. Face it my du, it's 09, mad girls use the net. It's not that big of a deal.

Alvin doesn't have a seceduale to compete the series as he has stated.

[I-Rock]

Hi new faggot.

It's ashame that there are still shallow asshole men out there who can't accept that women are alive and well. I've dealt with guys like this for years so it ain't new.

[Kidis]

First off, I-Rock, if those are pics of you then I must apologize for this comment before I state it. I refuse to believe it is you. No woman that hot would dare be a VG geek, and if so, wouldn't come out in the open about it. The fact you're posting on these forums (or ANY forums) alone is making me skeptical beyond belief. Impossible. Nothing can convince me otherwise. Again, I apologize.
*Lung Explodes from Laughter*

[docile_chinchou]

lol at the I-Rock not being real comment.

Anyways, Razz, seeing it is your first post, welcome to VGLan.

I would like to make a reply to your view that he should end the series now to avoid making people wait. The thing is, I don't think people really need to wait for the series to continue. People can simply watch a new episode when it arrives and enjoy it until the novelty has worn off, then forget about it and do/watch something else. When a new episode comes out after that and they are notified, they can watch and enjoy that and catch up on the series trivia if the need arises for them to follow along. Then, they can go back to doing something else they enjoy. I think the people that become impatient on Alvin's work do so because they don't have anything else to do, which isn't too healthy, in my opinion.

And as I-Rock stated, Alvin does not follow a schedule as his motivation to work on the series dictates the flow of new episodes. Since he's making the series for no monetary gain, I think he has the right to put it off as long as he wants.

[Holy cow164]

What about omega, the kick ass robot, or the chaotix?

[docile_chinchou]

What about omega, the kick ass robot, or the chaotix?

Alvin says they were all destroyed, too.

[Holy cow164]

So, what if sonic got a fire flower?

[docile_chinchou]

So, what if sonic got a fire flower?

You'll find out in the next episode.

[Old Man]

Will Shadow ever confess his hidden feelings for Sonic?

[docile_chinchou]

Will Shadow ever confess his hidden feelings for Sonic?

Absolutely. And he bleeds to death when he gets rejected after Sonic chooses Tails instead.

[Old Man]

Absolutely. And he bleeds to death when he gets rejected after Sonic chooses Tails instead.

That's pretty bad since Tails is dead. I didn't know that Sonic was into that kind of stuff. But, I guess Sonic likes em cold. :B

[PKMN Trainer Diamond]

Absolutely. And he bleeds to death when he gets rejected after Sonic chooses Tails instead.

Not to mention Dr. Eggman is emo now that he can't be butt buddies with Sonic. He kills himself killing Mecha Sonic.

[docile_chinchou]

It's a tragedy, really.

[Holy cow164]

...And wherever Silver is he is probably sticking his quills up his ass because he can't get up knuckles ass anymore.

[Quiet Attrition]

Was a comment like that really necessary? Like seriously, why bump the topic at all?

[fawfulmk-II]

at last, I return...to a sea of closed threads(seriously, what the hell?) anyway, I'm curious of what Mecha Mario's abilities will be.

[docile_chinchou]

at last, I return...to a sea of closed threads(seriously, what the hell?)

The threads were either bumped after no new posts for three weeks or over when a question was answered.

[SS3 Goku]

hahaha the comments referring to homosexuality wit sonic an the others r hilarious! XD

[SS3 Goku]

im sad that how sonic knows mario's name wasnt revealed in ep. 8, real let down, cuz i was seriously curious on that, an now another yr., damn itd b nice if alvin worked a lil faster on these things, even if he does have a life lol